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I've been using a press for the last year that uses the same configuration, the 16gpm blue pump from Northern Tool with a 5hp compressor duty motor, that is great. It moves itself and metal fast, and isn't overly loud.
A lot of the presses I've seen though seem to be using one of the black pumps, I assume the 11 or 13gpm models, and they seem to be obnoxiously slow and loud. I feel the properly built forging press is the most useful tool in a shop period, as much as hammers are more fun, the press seems much more versatile, but as you mention, having the correct dies are essential.
What type of work do you want to do? First off though, I'd get a 5 h.p. 3 is a bit weak. For the work I do, pretty much what I have.
Minimum of 50 ton, H-frame. More travel than I have now to accept more tooling and bigger work. A larger opening, too, but not by much. I see where limit switches can be handy to set where the press stops every time. They're better than using blocks. Maybe stack my tank, motor and pump to take less floor space, but still on a separate cart. Not mounted to the press.
The floor pedals are a great feature. I'd never use a hand lever. One thing I want to add to my press is quick disconnect couplings on the hoses. That way if I need to load the press and cart for a demo or class somewhere the hoses just come off. A must on all presses is to take in safety! Definitely get hose protector sleeves for your high pressure hoses!
Then it's a matter of making all the tooling for whatever you want to make. I am thinking of going big. I want versatility. I don't make knives I do forge tools though. I Have a press I have been playing with. It is a H frame shop press with no guides.
It has a 4' cylinder and a pump that came out of an old iron worker. It only develops 1000 psi so I am only getting about 7 tons but it has a lot of flow. I have only used it to bend things so far. The ram moves very fast. I have a few rams laying around 2-4' and an monster 8'. I was thinking it would be useful to have a wide frame with room for several dies in a row for forging complex shapes.
I am thinking at least as powerful as Randy's press if not more. But I don't mind starting from scratch. I was thinking 80 ton with a 10 hp motor and a 22gpm pump. At this point I am just gathering information. I saw your videos a while back and have been in the process of building my press.
I have a 100 ton h frame that I have used for forging but it is slow and not designed to forge with. I have the frame built out of 10 inch 1/2 inch wall square tube and I have the cylinders they are 18 inch stroke 5 inch diameter 2 inch rod cylinders and for the pump I have a 10ph 3ph motor with a 16 gpm pump.
I should have it up and running in a couple of months. I have been thinking of using the frame for the oil sump I could probably get at least 30 gallons in it. I dont want to overheat the oil. Does your press get hot.
I was contacted by a gentleman a few days ago about information on making a hydraulic forge press. These machines are interesting and I thought I would post what is found with a few quick searches. What I hope is someone who has taken to task and has actually built one they use and wouldn't mind sharing the pros and cons of their experiences. This is the link. This is a video from Dragonfly Forge on a neat press no plans so far. I can share with you a few ideas. There are a number of ways to provide power to a hydraulic press.
The video above shows a pump hooked to a 5 horse power 220 volt electric motor. You could also use a lawn mower engine. Case and Ingersoll tractors used hydraulic pumps and motors to power their garden tractors.
You could salvage one of these old tractors for parts to power your forging press. I also found a build for a press on YouTube that rightly started with a warning. 'Don't follow my plans' No doubt CYA. I agree, you should be competent enough to know your design capabilities or hire an engineer to review your plans or design a press for your needs. On the other hand we don't blacksmith because it's a ______________.
Keep the fires burning hot! 2020 ABANA Conference in Sarasota New York. Through June 6th.
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I've been using a press for the last year that uses the same configuration, the 16gpm blue pump from Northern Tool with a 5hp compressor duty motor, that is great. It moves itself and metal fast, and isn't overly loud.
A lot of the presses I've seen though seem to be using one of the black pumps, I assume the 11 or 13gpm models, and they seem to be obnoxiously slow and loud. I feel the properly built forging press is the most useful tool in a shop period, as much as hammers are more fun, the press seems much more versatile, but as you mention, having the correct dies are essential.
What type of work do you want to do? First off though, I'd get a 5 h.p. 3 is a bit weak. For the work I do, pretty much what I have.
Minimum of 50 ton, H-frame. More travel than I have now to accept more tooling and bigger work. A larger opening, too, but not by much. I see where limit switches can be handy to set where the press stops every time. They're better than using blocks. Maybe stack my tank, motor and pump to take less floor space, but still on a separate cart. Not mounted to the press.
The floor pedals are a great feature. I'd never use a hand lever. One thing I want to add to my press is quick disconnect couplings on the hoses. That way if I need to load the press and cart for a demo or class somewhere the hoses just come off. A must on all presses is to take in safety! Definitely get hose protector sleeves for your high pressure hoses!
Then it's a matter of making all the tooling for whatever you want to make. I am thinking of going big. I want versatility. I don't make knives I do forge tools though. I Have a press I have been playing with. It is a H frame shop press with no guides.
It has a 4' cylinder and a pump that came out of an old iron worker. It only develops 1000 psi so I am only getting about 7 tons but it has a lot of flow. I have only used it to bend things so far. The ram moves very fast. I have a few rams laying around 2-4' and an monster 8'. I was thinking it would be useful to have a wide frame with room for several dies in a row for forging complex shapes.
I am thinking at least as powerful as Randy's press if not more. But I don't mind starting from scratch. I was thinking 80 ton with a 10 hp motor and a 22gpm pump. At this point I am just gathering information. I saw your videos a while back and have been in the process of building my press.
I have a 100 ton h frame that I have used for forging but it is slow and not designed to forge with. I have the frame built out of 10 inch 1/2 inch wall square tube and I have the cylinders they are 18 inch stroke 5 inch diameter 2 inch rod cylinders and for the pump I have a 10ph 3ph motor with a 16 gpm pump.
I should have it up and running in a couple of months. I have been thinking of using the frame for the oil sump I could probably get at least 30 gallons in it. I dont want to overheat the oil. Does your press get hot.
I was contacted by a gentleman a few days ago about information on making a hydraulic forge press. These machines are interesting and I thought I would post what is found with a few quick searches. What I hope is someone who has taken to task and has actually built one they use and wouldn't mind sharing the pros and cons of their experiences. This is the link. This is a video from Dragonfly Forge on a neat press no plans so far. I can share with you a few ideas. There are a number of ways to provide power to a hydraulic press.
The video above shows a pump hooked to a 5 horse power 220 volt electric motor. You could also use a lawn mower engine. Case and Ingersoll tractors used hydraulic pumps and motors to power their garden tractors.
You could salvage one of these old tractors for parts to power your forging press. I also found a build for a press on YouTube that rightly started with a warning. 'Don't follow my plans' No doubt CYA. I agree, you should be competent enough to know your design capabilities or hire an engineer to review your plans or design a press for your needs. On the other hand we don't blacksmith because it's a ______________.
Keep the fires burning hot! 2020 ABANA Conference in Sarasota New York. Through June 6th.